Feet hit the sand about 6am. to an incoming up to about a three ft. tide, untill about an eight am. shift to an outgoing tide. Started throwing a new LC on a used Daiwa Millionare I bought for 35-bucks a while ago, but never used !!! Line bird nested, and the LC snapped off !!! swithched to the old reliable Shimano spinner with the Gulp Minnow drop method and caught an "Almost " one !!! YEAH, I know, "Almost " Only counts in Hand Grenades and Horse Shoes BUT !!! for a short session a 21er is not bad The Hali was caught in the surf and released.