Carbontex Drag Upgrade for Torium 14 & 16

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  1. rmedina0811

    rmedina0811 Well-Known Member

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    I just replaced the stock drags on both my toriums (14 and 16). I won't be able to get out on the water for a little while but I'm anxious to see how the reels perform. Has anyone done this to their reels?

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    I had to leave the stock drag washer (#0419) on my 14 because the carbontex was too thin. I got a grinding noise which I think came from the drive gear sitting too low.

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    After I threw the stock washer back in the grinding was gone...anyone experience this?




    I'm sure Mr. Alan Tani knows exactly what's going on in there :D
     
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    i did it to my 30 and its stronger and has a little more drag
     
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    Just bought a Cal plates upgraded drive plate...I'll put it in tonight
     
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    yes! i've noted this issue on the trinidad/torium 16/20/30. the 14 is probably the same, but the id x od dimensions of the washer are probably different. what i do is take the penn ht-100 drag washer from the high speed 4/0 senator 113h (part #6-113h) and install it under the gear instead of the carbontex washer. i'd notified smoothdrag.com a month or two ago, so i'm sure the new sets are fixed. if you local tackle shop can't get you the proper drag washer, or if dawn at smoothdrag.com can't help you, then send me an e-mail and i can get a pair of washers to you. i will need the dimensions of the washer in mm for the id x od x th. thanks! alan
     
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    Thanks for the Reply Alan..I knew I wasn't crazy...:D
     
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    sorry to break this to you, dude, but if we all weren't a little crazy, we wouldn't be here .......
     
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    LOL...so true.

    Hey Alan is there a website that has a comprehensive list of your teardowns? I've seen them all over the place (allcoast, bloodydecks, pierfishing etc.) and I was wondering if you have your own website or something. very informative articles.
     
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    Alan is the man!

    :appl::appl::appl:
     
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    Yeah, I've got to do my Tor 16 blew those drags out in La Paz....I've never torn these reels apart, where can I get schematics?
     
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    You will find any schematic here, Mike's Reel Repair and lots of other info on reels and spare prices etc.
     
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    Wow! After looking at the schematics I think I'll leave it for the technicians........:dunno:I might come up with a bunch of extra parts when I put it back together:slap:. At the J&T Tackle swapmeet there's gonna be a guy from Shimano working on reels, maybe I'll bring it there.:)
     
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    Joe, its very easy to do, only a few screws, work systematically.:wacky:
    Or put in box and send here, ill fix it for you. Am busy with a Trinidad for a friend, that's got lots of parts.
     
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    Oh, I get flustered when there's too many moving parts.......much easier working on guitars and drums!;)
     
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    here is how I took care of the pin problem...

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    I inserted a pin or in this case a straightened out staple...

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    and then screw on the star until you hear the click...

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    Ya a tooth pic works great too. Another thing to remember if you have never pulled a reel apart before is get a big trash bag and pull it apart in there. That way if anything springs OFF the bag will catch it unless it comes out the open top then you are on your own LOL!!
     
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    Get a Diawa, much simpler system.

    That's about the only bit that can "spring off" the rest just drop off to roll out of sight somewhere.:dunno:
    I always use some shallow containers to put all the bits in, specially if it is going to take a few days to complete.
     
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    Point the click pin down or towards you when you put the star on, that way, if it pops out, it will hit you or your work towel.

    The Cal plate makes the biggest difference, great upgrade.

    If the reel grinds when you tighten the star, the main gear IS hitting something, it is the anti reverse dog retaining plate.

    Just flip it over.

    With the sideplate off, look at the main gear and how that plate tucks under. Flip it over and you'll see what I mean. It has a crescent shaped edge to it, I think its so that it will clear the main gear.

    The HT-100 is also a great fix, but it may be a band-aid that may wear thin on a long range trip or something.

    Let me know if that works.
     

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