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09-17-2008, 08:18 AM
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Name: Darren Location: Menifee / Oceanside Vessel: '06 Clearwater 22' Goin' Deep Occupation: teacher Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 35 | Keeping bait alive???
I have 2 small bait tanks on board, but with a full scoop of sardines, 1/3 of them die by the middle of the afternoon. Is there some type of oxygen tablets or something I can put in the water to help, or is there just too many, or is this normal? Thanks. Gonna try to hit the tuna on Sunday, any tips on a good stating area? | 
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09-17-2008, 08:33 AM
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Name: Joey Location: Channel Islands, CA Vessel: Wellcraft 190CCF Occupation: Internet Superstar Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 33 | How big are the bait tanks? What size pump is feeding each tank? How much bait are you putting in each one?
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09-17-2008, 09:15 AM
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Name: Darren Location: Menifee / Oceanside Vessel: '06 Clearwater 22' Goin' Deep Occupation: teacher Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 35 | probably 1 foot deep, 1 1/2 feet back, and 1 1/2 feet wide. 2 full bait net scoops of sardines in each one (totalling one $35 scoop out of SD harbor). It looks very crowded. There isnt a pump, it filters water in through a bottom pipe (from the ocean) and it spills out a pipe in the top - so it is supposed to be recycling. Any ideas? Thanks Joey805 (My 3 year old boy is named Joey - he loves fishing!) | |
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09-17-2008, 09:19 AM
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Name: Mitch Location: Simi Valley Vessel: Reel Therapy Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 65 | doesn't sound ideal for keeping bait alive. You need an aerating type pump that gives constant flow in the tank. From the sounds of it, they are very small tanks. You need to drastically reduce the amount of bait you put in there..Half scoop or less in each. There is a good chance the bait your getting is very weak and not cured, putting them in those conditions is almost sure thing that they will die shortly.
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09-17-2008, 09:25 AM
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Name: Joey Location: Channel Islands, CA Vessel: Wellcraft 190CCF Occupation: Internet Superstar Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 33 | So let me get this straight, there is no bait pump at all that provides a steady stream of fresh ocean water to the baits? It sounds like about a 12 to 16 gallon tank. I would not put more than a 1/2 scoop in there based on the dimensions you provided me.
Also without a bait pump or something providing fresh constant water to that tank, everything you put in there is going to probably die.
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09-17-2008, 09:25 AM
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Name: Drew Location: Thousand Oaks Vessel: 23' Striper WA/ 250 Yami OB- blood thirsty Occupation: Zebco Pro-staffer Join Date: Oct 2003 Age: 42 | Phishy is right on the money. Tanks that small can't sustain that many fish even with better circulation. I have a 35 gallon tank feed with a 500 GPH low volume pump and it keeps a hot scoop of bait alive the better part of the day but even then it will loose 1/3 of the bait buy mid afternoon. Fish stores sell a tablet that bubbles and will put more air in the water but the ammonia build up from lack of more fresh water is just a quick a killer as not enough oxygen and then if you run too much water in you can exhaust the bait from having to swim and that will kill them quick too.
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09-17-2008, 09:34 AM
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Name: Mike Hadfield Location: Alpine Ca. Vessel: 48' fish killing Pacifica Occupation: Sport Fishing "SIX PACK CHARTERS' Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 51 | I agree with Mitch... you do need a pump, if you dont have one. The thing you need to make certain when you do add a pump is to make sure your recycle time is somewhere between 7 and 10 minutes. this is done by adding a lave so you can adjust the flow. With two tanks you will also need to make a baffle system with a valve for each tank so you can adjust the flow to each tank. to adjust the flow..... start with an empty tank then timefrom when you start the pump until the tank starts to flow out the overflow... 7 min is optimum.... 10 is ok if you have light loads but with small tanks I would think you will always be full
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09-17-2008, 10:00 AM
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Name: Tom Location: Chula Vista, CA Vessel: 361FT, Electric Boat, USS Albuquerque (SSN 706) Occupation: US Navy Join Date: Sep 2007 Age: 32 | agree with all....looks like you need a bigger tank...oh..i have one for sale: For Sale: Kodiak PF-14 Round 14gal Bait Tank Still Available
but also checkout www.livebaitlarry.com very good information on tanks, and bait keeping-alive techniques under "important links"
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09-17-2008, 10:09 AM
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Name: Mitch Location: Simi Valley Vessel: Reel Therapy Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 65 | nice plug tom..
larry is about 1/2 mile down the block from me...grumpy f'er..but the man when it comes to live bait...check him out..he will have everything you need..and cash gets you great deals with him
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09-17-2008, 10:11 AM
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Name: Tom Location: Chula Vista, CA Vessel: 361FT, Electric Boat, USS Albuquerque (SSN 706) Occupation: US Navy Join Date: Sep 2007 Age: 32 | Quote:
Originally Posted by phishy  nice plug tom..
larry is about 1/2 mile down the block from me...grumpy f'er..but the man when it comes to live bait...check him out..he will have everything you need..and cash gets you great deals with him | 
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